let's go to the old saying the cushion is not a suicide pact and basis of the claims that minorities are hurt. look at los angeles police that shot those people that brought a vocal group out, yeah, we don't want to shoot people but the police are corrupt. it's a mirror image of the view. >> paul: 84% of the stop and frisk people who are stopped and frisked are minorities including to 2011 and 88% of those stop and frisked, no summons and no arrest. so the accusation, its kind of racial profiling and number two, it's way over done. you don't need to do it because these people aren't threatening. >> but it doesn't take the deterrence effect it could be having. if people know there are police