competitive enterprise institute. good morning to you. it's interesting. for the last three years, cuomo said his decision would be guided by science and not politics. and yet it looks like he's playing politics, doesn't it? >> it sure does. he's creeped up to making a decision, gotten close to it several times over the last three years. every time he's been pulled back, i believe, by political pressure from the environmental movement and really the democratic establishment in new york state. >>steve: he regards it as a lose-lose situation, doesn't he? >> he's got a problem. upstate new york is the republican part of the state. it's a democratic state. but if you start making the republican part of the state prosperous with a brand-new industry -- national gas fracking -- it's going to change the politics and you'll start seeing -- if new york becomes an energy producer, you'll start seeing its representatives in washington like senator