abide by obama care's new rules and they won't make any exceptions. >> and arkansas another state commissioner we've heard from tonight. by the way the washington commissioner is a democrat. but how about arkansas? >> arkansas also is very interesting, another state where insurance regulations can really go back and forth in terms of the politics. but they're also saying that they don't want to waive any exceptions for these insurance plans that are changing under obama care. and that could create a backlash among people seeing their plans canceled. they could appeal to these insurance commissioners and say why don't you back up president obama on this one. but i think the real key here is seeing what individual insurance companies do in other states because they're really going to be looking to these regulators for cues on where to go. p. >> how about insurance companies themselves, do they like the idea of resurrecting the canceled policies? >> no, they know the policies won't be profitable for them in a post-obama care world. and they put out a very strong