together and they're laughing about it. i think na tthat is criminal jue system is going to have to make a sound example of some of these thugs before this matter will dissipate, but there's a lot of video games and they're going on youtube and these other places and they're seeing this. this is just absolutely sick. >> jim, it's almost like a malignancy because it's happening in so many communities. there have actually been deaths on it. we've reported on cases where they've thrown a couple of punches and someone has died and you've got people laughing at the whole concept of this. they call it a game. and i hate to use it -- that's what they call it, but these are crimes. >> i think you have the right word "malignancy" as a prosecutor you come across people who are missing something inside. a basic human empathy which stops people from treating other people like a video object. there's an evil inside, a lack of empathy. a very serious crime. these kind of guys if you catch them, whoever prosecutes should