changed, gay marriage, you know, more and more states will do that particularly in the north and the west. so there is -- we are particula northwest and the north. we are becoming a more secular nation. we still maintain a high level of religiousosity, is that a word? >> sure. >> and that is the trend of the future? >> bill, even if it is not a word, you're big enough that if you say it is becomes a word. it is religiousity in there somewhere. i don't think these are necessarily signs of secularism, i would bet there are people smoking pot that believe in god and those who don't. >> it is a more permissive culture, surely you see that, maybe you don't, you live in washington. it is a more permissive culture,
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