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i'm fascinated, i look at church frequency in my polling data more solar than even evangelical. if you go to church 3-4 times a week, that says something about your religiousosity. frequent churchgoers are not going to overturn roe v. wade, i think there's a nuance here, there's a conversation about extremism. as a conversation about going too far. i think in some voters minds they cannot be so for abortion, but they cannot be for the sort of extremism, taking away rights from women and women getting hurt.
data -- i'm fascinated, i look at church frequency in my polling data more so than evangelical. if you go to church 3-4 times a week, that says something about your religiousosity. frequent churchgoers are not for the overturn roe v. wade, i think there's a nuance here, there's a conversation about extremism. as a conversation about going too far. i think in some voters minds they cannot be so for abortion, but they cannot be for the sort of extremism, taking away rights from women and women getting hurt. i've got to lean into what celinda says here. that this is a motivator. democrats have a changing variable in order for us to overcome history. i will remind people that bush
changed, gay marriage, you know, more and more states will do that particularly in the north and the west. so there is -- we are particula northwest and the north. we are becoming a more secular nation. we still maintain a high level of religiousosity, is that a word? >> sure. >> and that is the trend of the future? >> bill, even if it is not a word, you're big enough that if you say it is becomes a word. it is religiousity in there somewhere. i don't think these are necessarily signs of secularism, i would bet there are people smoking pot that believe in god and those who don't. >> it is a more permissive culture, surely you see that, maybe you don't, you live in washington. it is a more permissive culture,