realistic fear these days? >> it depends on who you are. it was interesting because it shows how far we've come in two years, which is that he came out in a memoir. there was a publicist coordinating the rollout. it was treated like a major, major announcement. this time it wasn't quite ellen degeneres on the cover of "time" magazine, but it was still treated with great car and it shows how much the country has evolved. one last thing i want to say about duck dynasty is half of on our country still oppose easy gay marriage. but 59% of americans say they have no problem with gay relationships. they find them morally acceptable. so we've moved a lot. i think if you're an anchor in the deep south in a really conservative area, it could still be a problem. >> so if possible, sam champion, he came out. i don't know if gma is still number one or not, but is it