net if you will, so now you have got tax subsidized health insurance joining with disability insurance, which, by the way, enrollment in that has disubled since 19956789 it's become a sort of permanent welfare. you have got that and you have got food stamps so. these there are these incentives not to work. and what i keep saying over and over again, the problem with that is it confines people to poverty, jobs are what get people out of poverty. jobs are what get people on a mobility track to better incomes and jobs are what help reduce inequality. >> ed, am i right in describing it that is that the white house said this is not about killing jobs, this is about encouraging or somehow getting people to work less. is that what this is? >> you know, as i read the report and then as i have read our reporting and as i think byron outlined there is the idea that enough people now going to believe because they can get
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