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not want the report to come out. >> all right. joining us now from washington, republican kate obenshain, from tucson, arizona, kirsten powers, the democrat and fox news analyst. so, i understand what hayden is saying about getting emotional over alleged torture, kirsten. i don't think it applies just to women. i think a lot of men get emotional, too. and if you do get emotional about it, you can't really file an accurate, unbiased report, can you? >> well, where is the evidence that she is emotional? she has an opinion on it. that doesn't mean it's emotional. he is ascribing, you know, her intentions or whatever is coming from behind her view as to being emotional. i'm sorry, bill, i don't see him. i would not see him saying that about a male in her exact same position. i just don't think that he would say that. >> all right. well, i don't know mr. hayden so i don't know whether he would or would not. this is a david ignatius column, kate, who basically

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