saying this is turning into the president's katrina. guess what? a democrat said much the same. listen. >> i hope this doesn't become the katrina moment for president obama saying he doesn't need to come to the border. he should come down. >> reporter: when a democrat says that about the president, it gives you an idea of how the stakes are growing for this president. katrina, hurricane katrina and the federal response ended up becoming a very paralyzing moment for then president bush. obviously there's great fear at the white house about how all this is playing out as well. >> maybe that's why they're not calling it a crisis. instead it's a situation. ed henry, thank you so much. >> good to see you. >> for more on the president's trip to texas tomorrow, time for real talk with president and founder of ndn and also larry o'connor. great to see you, gentlemen. >> welcome back. >> so earlier in the show the