report produced by congress in the time i've worked in national security. this was a precooked report, and the reason they didn't talk to people like hayden and jose rodriguez and other former cia officials is because they did not want this precooked report to be spoiled by inconvenient facts. jon: well, you know, talking about the facts, i have not read the report yet, i am just reading some of what's coming out about it because it's only just now being released since we have taken air with this program. but, for instance, one of the conclusions of the report is that there were a number of other suspects that were subjected to waterboarding, more than the cia had earlier reported. why, why would that, why would that information just be coming out now? why was the cia -- why would the cia not admitted to that earlier? >> this report was based entirely on a document search. we had to talk to officials who were responsible for these documents. there could be errors in the