approval. karl rove says this was humane as he details what they did with the water boarding. >> there has to be a doctor present. the water has to be a certain temperature. they have to be elevated so they literally cannot drown, the water cannot get into their lungs. the doctor has to advise the subject that they will not die. you have to tell them, you're not going to die. you're just going to feel like you are drowning and, therefore, it's going to help break your spirit and make you compliant. you can throw people up against a wall but only if the wall is constructed in a special way so that it gives so that the chances of them suffering physical harm from being slammed up against a wall are nonexistent. >> and they could have stopped it by doing this thing called talking and being compliant. we ask you this question to all of you out there: are you comfortable with the enhanced interrogation process and are you comfortable with the fact that the world knows what our tactics were in 2001 through 2005. >> we're going to get