run, but this is the first candidate in the race for absolutely certain. >> from a strategy position, you like the fact that he got out front because this is oeshlly a -- he's like the first one out of the pac. >> he can take the hits now like jamey says, he will take it. but hits are only so good so many times. if you're going to take them, they take them back and back and back. this is going to force other people to get into the race. >> talking about the impacts on other gop hope 238s who you think might jump in and how this might impact their decision making. >> he hasn't necessarily decided yet, but it hasn't changed his plans whatever they were in any way, shape or form. a lot of people are saying if i'm not going to volt for jeb