about 11:20 a.m. so it was still in the air for about another 35 minutes. what does that tell you? >> it tells me that he made a distress call, he was having problems within the aircraft itself. possibly the loss of an engine. where in that mountainous terrain he did not have enough power to clear the mountains. if he made a distress call, quite obviously they were in control of a situation where by they were running through a corre check list. when you're in a mountainous terrain the biggest thing you have is maintaining the altitude. the warnings inside the cockpit are very simple. these are ground proximity warnings. and if those systems are starting to trigger in an cockpit you are approaching an altitude you will not be able to clear. >> if you're in that plane right now -- i know this is asking you off the cuff -- you're having problems in that area, where do