where you are considered to be spiritually advanced enough to be able to deal with that material. now, other people will say the other view of that is until you've been caught in the trap well enough, nobody in their right mind would stick around once they read or heard that. >> uh-huh. >> hubbard -- >> founder of scientology. >> excuse me. >> that's okay. >> l. hubbard said that material is dangerous to people who are not spiritually prepared for it. and scientologyist believe that to today. >> do you believe it started off with a noble purpose and morphed into something else? >> i do. i do believe that there was some intent on the part of mr. hubbard to help people. i also believe that there were more nefarious motives behind some of that as well. >> making money?
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