back now with more of our interview with mike rinder, formerly the spokesman for the church of scientology for decades. here he explains the church's role in the end of tom cruise and nicole kidman's marriage. you were in the organization then i take it when tom cruise joined scientology? >> yes i was. >> how do you get a guy, a star like that, to join a religion like scientology? >> i think, megyn, i mean it's the answer to the question of what's done to get anybody to participate in scientology. >> but do you think he knows about this abuse? i mean because what the documentary asserts is that abuse is ongoing in the church. >> i think tom cruise is unique in that he does. because tom cruise is david's best friend. and you see in this film -- you see the two of them. and you see them growing together. >> let's show the audience that. show the audience the moment where tom cruise comes out and he salutes l. ron hubbard and
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