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him probably harder than savannah guthrie or kelly evans did last night anticipated didn't have a problem. so call it sexist i think which i have been hearing all day, i think is unfair. >> julia is looking at me imploringly for me to call on her. >> imploringly, pause i'm going to take off my partisan hat and put on my political consultant hat. dana you can agree with me on this, i think. the day you have a rollout and all the stories about process and all the store are about your demeanor and fighting with reporters and not the message you want to put out there, you're losing. he has to change this immediately. he can complain it is unfair. complain the press is out to get him. >> what about going on megyn kelly? a tough interview to go on. she was very strong with him. >> yes, but look whatting me.kelly was talking to him about, not about his -- the part we are playing not about his agenda, not his rollout not about his plans for the country about whether savannah guthrie savannah guthrie the "today" show, this is the exactly woodward and bernstein talking about process.

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