inherent distrust of anything that says washington or politician. >> all right. give the fact that -- and we're coming up against a break now, but given the fact that she's wanted to talk to everyday americans and kind of keep the press out of it, making them chase her scooby van. by the way, do you know why it's called a scooby van. >> the press is ridiculous. >> she's ridiculous she didn't go to the entrance she was supposed to. but why are they calling it a scooby van? >> no idea. do you know? >> i have no idea. >> i don't either. >> but the last question i want to ask you is given that it hasn't worked so well, joe, with everyday americans that she picked, maybe she ought to stand in front of, you know, crowds and take questions. she's a smart woman. right? >> i absolutely think that you're going to see her, you know, doing town halls, a lot of -- with real people talking going throughout iowa. she has to do that. she has to show that she wants this and she's ready to fight for it. >> that's right. and that she's not going to be
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