that's what wikileaks' problem is. >> i bet it was his agent and not even i'm h. his agent probably said let's keep this quiet. i'm sure ben affleck didn't care. if he thought about it half a second he wouldn't have made a fuss because now it is a story. it is kind of cool that his ancestors owned slaves and his mother marched with the civil rights. that's a good story. >> this is an example of the streisand effect. a celebrity tries to quash a story it ends up with more people knowing about the story. >> do they sing a lot? >> no, this is a known thing. you need to stay in more. as tom was saying how many people would have known about it if it aired on a pbs documentary? seven? >> probably eight. i just think for ben it is a reality show kind of. you can't go on "the bachelor" and say wait i have to date
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