the prison costs more than the crime they're going to make was going to net them. i think the government needs to shift the money around to create incentives that don't exist that could mean jobs that aren't really there like fdr type jobs to do work. rewards to stay in school to gary's point to not get pregnant get good grades stay out of jail. that would cost less to pay someone nut jail and the incentives aren't there for the people to not fall into these traps. >> john what do you think about that? >> i think that is a massive problem. look you got to break generational cycles here and the war on poverty has not done that. jonas talks about incarceration, generational problems with incarceration, with poverty, with gang membership. look you talk about income inequality and upper mobility and all the fancy buzzwords. they mean absolutely nothing. there's not income. 50% of those people in freddie gray's neighborhood were unemployed. there aren't any jobs.