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there is sort of a moral question. if the president of the united states doesn't believe in the mission, whether it is in afghanistan or in iraq or somewhere else then he shouldn't be sending american men and women and put their lives at risk. martha: do you believe that this president believes in this mission? >> i believe, i think he believes in the stated goal of defeating isis because i think, i mean i don't know him but i think he understands the threat not just in iraq but in the region and eventually in europe and the united states if it goes unchecked. whether he is prepared to take the steps like i mentioned i honestly don't know. i hope so. i hope that the reality will come home to them on the other hand, as you pointed out yesterday his spokesman seems to have been preparing the path for a different different step and i think that is going to be very dangerous for us both in iraq and in the region. martha: i have to ask you one

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