>> granny off the cliff kind of thing? >> oh, yes. the democrats have already eviscerated medicare. they took the money out of medicare, robbing grandmother spread the wealth. they've imposed a bundling measure thawill make it so hard to get hips and knee replacements. they're pushing this end of life counselling so that seniors will end their lives early. they're even awarding bonus points to the hospitals that spend the least per senior. >> what about this criticism of walker by jindal? is there some validity to that? >> i don't think so. i thought walker's plan was very sound. >> what is it about his plan that is so distinctive than rubio's? >> there are very few differences between walker and rubio except that walker offers the tax break regardless of your income. and that's fair in a way because people who don't get their on the job coverage ought to be able to pay for it with pre-tax dollars, right? and on the other hand, rubio goes after this third rail of politics, changing medicare, which may invite prematurely a
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