outline, they're ceos who know about getting things done and who understand accountability, and why not, after all these failed years of professional politicians coming up short, why not have people who are accustomed to this kind of people. >> how about robert kennedy, his brother. >> but the guy running ford, that's not a bad thing. all i'm saying is media very different when this involved someone like donald trump than when it involved someone like john kennedy. >> donald trump has his ceos, all of these people build things, material things. it feels like the press is kind of forgetting -- with bits and bites or whatever they're doing.