>> i think the reason why we lost this election is because we didn't have a convincing narrative for working class americans. i think we have to go back to those roots -- >> you were sure of it until november 8. >> the candidates who ran on that message won their re-election. >> kimberly -- >> i tell you this, he said he wanted to be a transformative figure in american politics. he certainly was. he wanted to be transformative like reagan. other than reagan, nobody did more to put conservatives and republicans in office and back in the white house than president obama. that's the result. he might have been able to move his own numbers and ticket up in terms of favorability. but the democratic party is left in complete ruin because it was more about this president than it was about the party. >> tom, they have a lot of rebuilding to do over at the dnc. they have their own civil war. how are they going to move forward since they have devastated their bench? not in d.c. necessarily but across the country. >> one thing they have to realize -- i'm glad richard made