>> we are getting blown out of the game 100-0 right now. when you have the opm hacks, 22 million files, of which mine was one of mine, colonel peters was one of them, there is no accountability for that. i understand we want to retaliate based on traditional espionage. but we could have prevented that through solid defense. there was a standing more from 2007 that said, all data at rest must be encrypted. bill though systems that opm were so old? >> bill: explain that to people, opm is what? >> the office of personnel management. up until just recently, they were were responsible for processing and holding all of the applications for security clearances, which contained a lot of information of the chinese -- >> bill: who hacked them? >> china. china did. >> bill: they got all the information, we didn't do anything, president obama didn't do anything to china. with a proven beyond a reasonable doubt that china did a? >> absolutely. directive clapper, the same whey he talked about russia, it is no doubt that china did it. we could have stop a lot of us with a modern infrastructure.