the times story was bad enough, but this story was tweeted, shared, et cetera by tons of journalists. who didn't question at all. >> citizen journalists and bloggers and social media. i looked at anthony for affirmation. it was, i guess my point also is that it's not going to change. we are going to continue on and on and on. we got to learn how to deal with it without getting irritated. >> andy: regarding the al franken couch thing, i agree with you, we need more of this in washington. liking rick perry is kind of my guilty political pleasure. he's fun. >> i attribute that exchange, that good-natured exchange to the fact that donald j. trump is going to be president in minutes and the joy is spreading.