taken up by that. but there probably were. same thing with what we are doing with our allies. i presume they were sharing some of these vulnerabilities with our allies on legitimate operations. the problem with this leak, because wikileaks is not -- this will enable our enemies to exploit vulnerabilities against the suspect. those countries are going to have known about these, i'm sure they have their own programs. other countries that don't have as much of a robust operation or even just the hacker down the street who now has been given some guidance that, like you said, i can turn my neighbor's television on and perhaps watch someone walking by. those are the fears now that i would have come up much more so than the cia watching what i'm doing at home. >> shannon: karl, what do you make of this with wikileaks. there are those who say, they are exposing things. apparently a source, and they haven't expose the source,