there is direct evidence that that is not the truth. >> absolutely. there's a lot of direct evidence on that. but the parole board went out of their way to say that they will not consider what happened in the other trial, both civil and legal criminal. won't take into account on this parole. that's got to bode very well for o.j. in getting out today. i just don't think that you can sit there and talk in the fashion that he has, that people know he is lying, and then today, on the day you can get out of prison in october, you bring this up. people know it's patently false. >> jim gray, stay with us, if you would. we're expecting this parole board to be back in just a moment with a decision on this. it has to be unanimous or they bring in other members. that part of it is a little confusing. we believe we're about to get a decision one way or the other in just a minute. let's go to a forensic psychologist. testified for the defense in o. j. simpson's murder trial. mr. bodden, over the years
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