>> that is what he said about everything. >> there is a definition of leopard that is a presidency that succeeds. that succeeds in his policy goals and failed on healthcare. in general kelly has run the big organizations. he headed the marines in iraq, he ran this on a command of the united states marines. so he knows how to run an organization effectively and achieve a goal. and that is what the white house needs right now. kind of a consistency that stays on target, there is too much friendly fire in this white house because they are hitting each other everyday. that is a sort of thing he will try to put an end to. >> butler kelly has been at the top of the organizations, when you're the commander you're number one. he set the tone. now he is in a staff job and you know who is number one. the guy that doesn't like to be managed.[laughter] so i mean - a lot of this, if he is successful will be determined whether donald trump listens to him. >> exactly. i think that dan is right and
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