sure we get the needs of the people met. >> had the governor no requested protectively a waivener the jones act, would you have seen a compelling reason to suggest it? >> maybe a historical note of relevance, sometimes we'll see the carriers request the waiver. so you'll have foreign-flagged vessels or u.s. vessels carrier companies call us and say please waive it. there's an issue. we didn't get any carrier requests. once the governor calls and says we need it, we should listen and the president agreed. >> is this overhyped in simple terms? >> misunderstood. some critics think it was a price issue. i don't know how the markets price these things. it was bought and paid for by the u.s. tax payner a