>> it all happened within about a four hour period. >> i love the deputy job. i find that is when he gets another commander-in-chief very well. in more of a relaxed setting presently. present think every job in the white house is incredible. i was that if i ever walk into the building and i'm not in awe of being here, and being part of it, then i've been here too long and it's time to go. thankfully, i still feel a sense of reverence every time i stepped into the building. certainly, every time i stepped into the briefing room and i hope i never lose that. wesley uses a little prayer of thanks and gratitude every morning as a marine opened the door. >> i would say a prayer of god help me every day right before walking into that room. >> recently in atlantic magazine glenn said he thought the administration apparent tension with the press was overstated. would you agree? >> no! [laughter] i know glenn well but i think that there will always be tension between