unpopular is not because the republicans used the wrong words to describe it. it's because what's in it for you that is why the american people do not like it. you guys are wrong. you are deluding ourselves if you think this is not going to be hung around the necks of the republicans. >> i'm sure democrats will try. but i also think that you, austan, and nancy pelosi suffer from ptsd after passing obamacare. it was a terrible bill and everybody hated it and democrats lost a thousand seats. the only person who managed to win reelection off of obamacare was obama himself and he was a very special, unique candidate who appealed -- >> that was a tough moment but i will remind you that obamacare is more than twice as popular as this tax bill. >> kimberly: popularity of presidents tends to go up after they left office. i think this will be, if you look at it, president trump was able to bring this -- i think they should have done tax reform