i think it's important to put somebody in that position to investigate people high ranking in justice and the fbi. if you have somebody outside the swamp, that individual could call balls and strikes, upset the apple cart and finally people would be held accountable. that's what we have to do. and i think that's what the american people want after watching all these many months of all these facts spilling out. jenna: this guy horowitz works with jim comey. what we have is even in this witness with the inspector general, you have someone with no prosecution powers, no grand jury. can't they go to iowa or somewhere and get someone who isn't part of that establishment? >> ron and i were in the military. there is something called force