members. i can not imagine they are both here with me right now. thanks for coming guys. >> thank you for having us. neil: there was a back and forth on this about whether they're animals or not, forget about those who extended this characterization the president made to all the legals which he was talking about ms13 but do you characterize the people who did this to your daughter as animals? >> yes. no human, i mean, the way my daughter was murdered was un describable. i mean, just to imagine what they did to her and anissa is just, there's no words that can even put it and i think using the word animals is being kind. neil: could you tell me i don't want to go back in a difficult