an interview and we've been doing it. i mean, we have a team now, not only with jay but with jan and she's taking the load really of doing the negotiating with the mueller people. but the reality is that we've all become convinced even though we began with the hope that it could be done in good faith that there's too much. now, some of it is mueller's fault, some isn't. the whole thing with this investigation that was going on which we consider spying was done before mueller got involved, but it completely changed his investigation. >> entirely you believe? >> yeah. i mean, you have to ask what's the basis of the investigation? that and how about leaked comey report that turns out to come from a guy that, i think, he's one of the biggest liars in the history of washington. >> let me get back to what you're referring to.