>> especially coming on the heels, neil, what the president said about kim jong-un who is a horrible human rights dictators. we have to use these forums even if not working to stand-up for our human rights. >> what do you make of that? north korea is a different thing. i see maria's point. there could be a loss of influence. it goes from a tiny bit to none. >> the obama administration tried too use the council to stand-up for humans rights. it's not like they didn't spend the last year and half working towards reform and pressing on agenda items. unfortunately is many of the worse violaters don't get any