went from a local theater in chicago to nationally recognized theater. when you do a play in new york, you get reviewed by the "new york times," and international publications, so all of a sudden we went from something small to something a little bit bigger, and i was recognized as somebody who's, you know, can direct and that started the next series of events for us. but then i went out to california. mark: the rest is history. let me ask you about this. i don't even know if this is a fair question. what is your favorite movie that you were in? everybody knows your main movies. but what would you say for you, the most challenging role, the most fulfilling role? >> well, fulfilling, there's a bunch of them. most -- mark: i'll give you mine, one of mine. >> okay.
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