out and bring out into the fold other people, papadopoulos and some more amateurish people during the campaign, some very much more experienced people now that he's president, but some of the people brought into the administration weren't supporters of his during the campaign. you have a few never trumpers and people who are a little bit close to never trumpers, so there's certainly a number of names to choose from in terms of who might have written this op-ed. jon: you have to wonder whether there have been past administrations who had people filling this same kind of function, people who maybe disagreed with the president and would try to steer him in one direction or another, but their thoughts wouldn't necessarily make the new york times. that paper doesn't like this president. >> well, i think the big thing is not only would it not make the new york times, if it did make the new york times, it would make it in the context of a news story. maybe there would be some anonymous quotes where somebody was trying to say that within the administration, they were advising the president to steer clear of a certain course of action, they'd succeeded or failed, blame maybe somebody