the house, and obviously that is senator chuck schumer, as i said moments ago. they are there ahead of this rally coming up, talking about trying to get the government to reopen. now you've got nancy pelosi fully in a position where she is challenging the president, saying, "let's push back." katie agrees and i prayed to get back to a written forum. but there's a political play there, as well. kennedy didn't necessarily agree with all of what you said. >> jon: i would be surprised that there is a political play, and there is. the disney there is not true to what she is saying so we need to consider that he can deliver a state of the union wherever he wants to predeliver in writing, whatever he wants to do. >> harris: do you think he will deliver it in? >> jon: [laughs] >> harris: listen to you! >> kennedy: he might live to eat his own state of the union pray that would be impressive. [laughs] >> harris: we have the leaders of the democratic house of the senate on the steps, at the capital, talking about the shutdown and how people are feeling it.