process. >> laura: i get what you are saying. >> they have not tied it to the rule of the nomination. it's a free-for-all. >> laura: dennis kucinich, you and i talked about this before the show began. i keep thinking about the guys -- they could be guys or gals, who are master campaigners. barack obama, bill clinton donald trump, george w. bush. that's not because they won, but they were phenomenal retail politicians. who on that stage tonight, other than biden, has that kind of common touch? can be a little self-deprecating. can slur his words every now and then. i do not think anyone cares about that. who comes close to a retail politician with some pizzazz? i didn't see it. i try to look at it as an analyst. i did not see that kind of obama/trump go get it. i didn't see it. >> it's still early.
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