will: of course it's important to me, brian. you might want to know what a presidential candidate believes before you elect him. i don't think that many people know what court-packing is whenever i talk about this on social media people come back what is the g.o.p. doing? what's mcconnell? what's trump doing forcing amy coney barrett's nomination? it's not the same thing. it's important to note this is radical the court has had 9 members for 150 years. nobody has tried to pack the court, increase the number of justices since fdr it. would delegitimize the court set up another arms race with the next republic president adding another three. 12 to 15 to 18. this is radical to the american justice system and it needs to be explained by joe biden. ainsley: it's the wait and see approach. we are familiar with this because nancy pelosi wanted to do that in 2010 with the healthcare act. watch this. >> we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in