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cyberattack why just 16. dan hoffman served in moscow joins us now. dan, this is one of the things that really stuck out. how about don't hack us -- don't cyberattack us. no more ransomware or there will be hell to pay. >> yeah, i mean, this was pretty extensive, the list, and the question for us going forward is whether the biden administration has asserted deterrence in cyberspace. i'm not sure that we have. it's going to be appear extraordinarily important requirement for the intelligence community to collect on the reflections from the kremlin whether vladimir putin takes this seriously or not. what i would caution is before hacks occur there is extensive surveillance that takes place. all of these facilities are likely under russian government if not russian criminal hacking group surveillance right now. brian: yeah, it's important. what about the fact that he was able to sit there and do a whole bunch of what aboutisms about

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