dr. daszek. there were people in the united states that have conflict of interest. they were subsidizing or routing money to the lab to enhance gain of function research. that was very troublesome. we the american public were not apprised fully of that information. third, the chinese used a left-wing propaganda about a racist country and anti-asian racism and anti-asian hate crimes to use as a propaganda tool to say if you want to question the origins of the lab, you're a racist. all three of those had a trifecta perfect storm effect. suddenly just forget it all and now it's legitimate to talk about a lab genesis. we found out it's also okay to talk about an engineered virus. maybe it's also okay to talk about chinese military partnership with the lab and who knows what is okay next. >> shannon: i think it's a good