it's kind of comparative to world war ii. i don't think our invasion would have gone all that well. we have to take a hard look at what this really means to our effort in the area and how close an ally we have with the pakistanis. >> but, matt, if pakistan is at times working against us, then do we really have a partner? that's one side of the equation. is it fair to judge how pakistan has worked with us in the past, and in relationship to obama's stance today? >> i think it's absolutely appropriate to look at these documents. with regards to pakistani intelligence service, the current commander of the pakistani army used to be the commander of the pakistani intelligence services. he is, as most people would argue, the most powerful man in