clean one on one. so you could argue that the tea party's have had a good record of positioning themselves to win generals. maybe not in nevada, but other places. >> chris, first of all, isn't it amazing we're talking about delaware? this is a state we never thought we would be talking about. number two, alaska, utah, those states, the one thing that is different, delaware, this is a democratic state. mike castl.e's been elected for more than 40 years. he's been the governor of the state. the at-large representative. this is not a state where whoever wants to be republican nominee -- utah alaska. but it's a big leg up. >> let me give you some history, young fellow. joe biden, back in 1972, bumped out a guy who d won the house seat -- and you go in here, dan, you're the expert. a house member, senate member, for "x" many terms.n joe biden at the age of 29 knocked him out of his seat and held it for 40 year, so isn't it