well with the american people. if we don't do those things we are going to be in trouble ourselves. >> you talked about the tea party influence and you have been skeptical about whether tea party activists who become legislators are willing to come prom ice and willing to legislate. where are you finding that? closer to the tea party after the lame duck session or moderate? >> i hope i'm enthusiastic about new people coming in because god knows this congress coming into being needs to learn from mistakes of the past congress. tea party people can provide energy to do something about our spending problems by getting us back to 2008 spending levels. pat toomey is on your level. he has been a real leader on entitlement reform. the debt commission is a bipartisan document we all should look at about flattening our tax codes and increasing the age eligibility for medicare and social security. upper income americans should have their social security benefits. simply because we don't have enough money to keep social security solvent without change. i hope that the tea party will come to washington and change