opportunity to vent those frustrations you have a situation like the one we've been seeing here. >> mubarak has been very tough and on his critics every time you recommend relief or reform, whether iran or you recommend an election in gaza, the bad guys win. the ayatollahs, hamas wins. every time you guys interfere with the middle east the bad guys win. every time there's a revolution if the power structure gives in and shows some relief or uncertainty and gives way to the crowd they definitely go down. so i can understand why mubarak is listening to secretary clinton saying don't give us advice your own history tells you when a revolution is met with concessions the revolution goes further and demands the overthrow of the government. so, mubarak seems to know what he's doing here more than we do. >> reporter: there is that possibility. and many people in cairo are
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