and firing again in some cases very heavy caliber weapons, that could be heard, and would get noticed. obviously you can't have urban firing of a tank. it was never intended for that. people who have asked why isn't the army engaging, stepping in. the army of 450,000 here are in individual pieces of armor. what they can do, though, is fire their weapons. >> gentlemen, i find that absolutely -- i find that amazing that the tremendous restraint that the army has shown. as you said, richard, not even being referees, just letting it go. and at small times, engaging in crowd control. they just basically want the crowd to disperse, is that correct?