democracy which long term could be very, very positive, i believe it will be for america, in the short term can be exceedingly destabilizing, especially when it comes to places like jordan, saudi arabia, potentially down the road, and of course we just saw egypt, which was a relatively peaceful transition so far. that may not be the case in some of these other areas. >> early to tell. roger, the points that were brought up by rick there is destabilizing or positive. so the question to you then is, can the u.s. state department, does it have enough capacity to make an impact on that destabilizing influences that we've been seeing as of late? >> well, congressman lazio hit the nail on the head. that's a good summation of the issues and our interests here. richard, you've got to view this as a wave. the united states is going to ride the wave. we have very little ability to control its direction right now. the reason why egypt played out the way it did is because the egyptian military and security services made a decision not to
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