turns toward god, not a country that turns away from god. >> well, howard, what is this, an audition for elmer ganttry? is this what's going on here? are they applying for a televangelist job? they're running for president of the united states, which last time i looked had no religious test for the office under the constitution. >> well, chris, they're running to try to win caucus votes in iowa. and if you know iowa as i do, on the republican side, in the republican caucuses, that's going to be 50%, 60% or more evangelical christians. >> what was the percentage? >> 50% or 60% of the people who show up at the caucus vote. >> show up. from the church-based party. >> from the megachurches, they come from all over. in iowa, the farmland prices are soaring, commodity prices are up. most of iowa is not destitute economically. it's not like michigan or parts of ohio or parts of pennsylvania. and especially because of that,